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So I've prepared my coffee in the morning, and transferred it to a thermos flask, where it will only cool down negligibly over the course of the day.

Is anything happening to the coffee in the flask? Will the taste of the coffee change over the course of the day, or will a cup poured at 5pm taste essentially the same as one poured first thing in the morning?

If I had a perfect flask that lost no heat, how long would my coffee stay tasting as fresh as possible?

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  • Interesting idea. "Drinkable" is subjective, so I recommend rephrasing or clarifying your intent with that last sentence.
    – Alex A.
    Feb 6, 2015 at 16:10
  • @Alex Edited it, hope that's a bit better.
    – fredley
    Feb 6, 2015 at 16:12
  • Yes, I'd say that's better. I'm looking forward to seeing some answers to this.
    – Alex A.
    Feb 6, 2015 at 16:17
  • By perfect flask, do you also mean it contains no air and is perfectly sealed? Or perfectly sealed containing some air? Feb 6, 2015 at 16:27
  • @ChrisinAK Containing a small amount of air (the flask is almost full of coffee to start out)
    – fredley
    Feb 6, 2015 at 16:47

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The biggest chemical change that is going to occur is going to be oxidation.

Oxidation

Chemically, oxidation is defined as the following from this source.

Oxidation is any reaction in which one or more electrons are moved from one chemical to another, producing two different compounds.

Specifically related to coffee, oxidation is further elaborated upon as:

In coffee, the most common process is that an oxygen molecule donates two electrons to a compound, forming a new (differently perceived) compound and bonding with hydrogen to form water.

Oxidation of coffee occurs when oxygen molecules (present in the air in your flask and also dissolved in the water used to brew the coffee) come into contact with different compounds in the coffee. Even if you had no air whatsoever in the flask, this process would still happen due to the dissolved oxygen in the water used to make the coffee.

The process of oxidation occurs much more readily at higher heats, hence the reason why cold brewed coffee does not go stale as quickly.

When the oxygen combines with the hydrogen, water is created. That hydrogen ion, when it was free, was adding to the acidity of the coffee. Once it is no longer free and connected to the oxygen, in the form of water, the pH of the coffee will rise slightly, making the coffee more bitter. This is can be perceived as 'staleness'.

The compounds which are oxidized are the acids, aromatics, and oils. All of these give your coffee it's great taste.

Loss of heat

As the coffee cools, the molecules will vibrate more slowly. This leads to a drop in temperature and will occur in any container, no matter how good it is. Since you have described a situation with minimal heat loss, this process is negligible.

In Conclusion

The oxidation causes the coffee to become stale. This is a bean roasters worst nightmare. For the brewed coffee, it dismantles aromatics, acids, and oils - all key contributors to the coffee's flavor. It also raises the pH to make it more bitter and adds water to the mix.

So no, it won't taste the same at 5 pm as it would poured first thing in the morning. The taste of the coffee will change over the course of the day.

Answering your final question about duration of freshness:

How long will your coffee stay fresh in a perfect flask? That is a matter of opinion. Every coffee shop has a different standard for how long they let their brewed coffee sit. It can be 15 minutes to an hour.

As soon as you roast a bean, it begins to stale. As soon as you grind coffee, it begins to stale. As soon as you brew coffee, it begins to stale. It's hard to qualify what you will consider to be 'fresh'. A purist will tell you that unless you consume the coffee immediately, your coffee will be stale.

As I said, it is a matter of opinion, and if you have the perfect flask, I would say you could wait about an hour before your coffee becomes stale. That's just me though. The sooner you drink it the better.

What You Can Do

Ensure there is little to no air left in your flask. You might also look into cold brewing.


If you want to read more about these chemical processes as they apply to coffee throughout the preparation process (roasting, grinding, brewing), then you can check out this resource.

Black Bear Coffee

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  • Would freezing the coffee preserve it, or would freezing destroy some of the flavours?
    – fredley
    Feb 13, 2015 at 9:50
  • @fredley Freezing the coffee would effectively stop the oxidation process. I am unsure if it would affect the flavours... what happens chemically to coffee when it is frozen. If you want to post a separate question about this then I can try to find an answer for this. Feb 13, 2015 at 15:15
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Only you can really answer the taste portion of this question. How does it taste to you at the end of the day? Personally I am beginning to believe that oxidation actually improves brewed coffee. (Maybe in a similar way oxygen improves a opened bottle of wine). After all we stir coffee, froth it, slurp it. Why do that if it makes it taste worse? I've been experimenting with drinking drip brewed coffee over increasingly longer "sitting" times.

It was quickly obvious that sitting on the heating unit ruined it. So my technique has been to brew a pot (yeah in a Mr. Coffee machine), turn it off, drink a cup and let it sit on the counter. Everyday I heat a cup of that "old" coffee gently in the microwave and drink it. It's honestly tastier the next day and improves everyday for a week with diminishing returns. It hasn't ever gotten worse tasting over the week. I've left it on the counter and I've covered it and kept it in the refrigerator. The counter wins everytime. It tastes richer - nuttier, with a less harsh, more rounded bitterness. My current blend, (kept in a Mason jar in the freezer.... although that may be my next experiment), is two parts Starbucks Veranda blonde roast to one part Equal Exchange Breakfast Blend. I drink it black. My question has been: Will brewed coffee when kept at room temperature, improve in flavor over time? To my taste it does. I hypothesize that atmospheric oxygen is causing this but perhaps nitrogen plays a role too? I have not yet tested the tenet that oxygen spoils un-brewed coffee.

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  • Some people like the taste of blue cheese. The next stage of your experiment could be leaving the coffee until fuzzy stuff starts growing on it and seeing if that adds to the flavor. :-)
    – fixer1234
    Nov 19, 2022 at 23:15
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It's fascinating how oxidization can improve and worsen the brew depending on how long it's been oxidized. When I brew my V60 into a separate jug, swirl it, and then vigorously pour it into the mug to release some of the yellow CO2 bubbles, my brew significantly improves. It tastes fuller and overall better with reduced bitterness, thus one could argue that oxidizing coffee to open it up like a good wine or whiskey is a good thing. However, once it's oxidized over an hour or 2 it starts to introduce some bitter notes which worsens the brew. Summing it all up I guess introduce some O2 to the brew right after brewing in order to open it up but don't allow it to oxidize for too long as it will go stale.

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  • Welcome to Coffee.SE. Sharing first person experiences is sometimes a good way to answer Questions. The original poster seemed to be curious about chemical reactions that might take place in a closed fhermos of coffee. Especially with older Questions (as here) with existing Answers, some highlighting of what new information is being added can create value for future Readers.
    – hardmath
    Mar 6, 2023 at 11:44

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